Let's talk about rest. R e s t. We're always going, going, going! Doesn't the world to you seem like everything is speeding up faster and faster, and that time is going by incredibly fast, like a rollercoaster fast?
Today's episode is on the value of rest and all the different types of rest we need to look at.
There are 7 different ways of rest that our bodies need. And when we rest, we are better friends.
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Seven Ways of Rest - TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Fawn: Woo wee guys, how are you? Hello. Welcome back.
[00:00:06] Matt: I feel like, uh, deer Cotton headlights. I don't know what you wanna talk about. .
[00:00:11] Fawn: I wanna talk about rest. R e s t. We're always going, going, going, doesn't the world to you seem like everything is speeding up faster and faster, and that time is going by. incredibly fast, like a rollercoaster, fast.
[00:00:32] Matt: There's a dichotomy for me because if I'm doing a lot of stuff, my individual days go by really fast. But then when I look back what I did a week ago, it seems like a long time ago, it's like a Twilight Zone. So it's a weird thing.
[00:00:49] Matt: So yes, it has sped up and yet has slowed down at the same time.
[00:00:54] Fawn: I feel like most of us are really working. What's the term? Is it a car term? Working on all cylinders? Is that the term?
[00:01:05] Matt: Firing on all cylinders.
[00:01:06] Fawn: Firing on all cylinders, constantly nonstop.
[00:01:12] Matt: Yes.
[00:01:14] Fawn: Today's episode is on the value of rest and all the different types of rest we need to look at.
[00:01:23] Fawn: And perhaps the rest is maybe, and the thing is that I don't have time, like the kind, the amount of rest that I think I need. , I seriously don't have the time for.
[00:01:33] Matt: Oh dear.
[00:01:34] Fawn: It's terrible. . I haven't even been meditating. You know, I'm a huge meditator. I can't, I can't, no. . And you know what they say is when you don't have time to meditate, you need to be meditating twice as much.
[00:01:50] Matt: I remember reading Herman Hess in 1946, Magister Lutie wrote that exact thing.
[00:01:55] Fawn: What did he say exactly?
[00:01:56] Matt: You had your leading figure. He just got promoted to be the head of this order and all of a sudden his mentor brought in a meditation master for him and he was like, I don't have time.
[00:02:09] Matt: And he's like, Yeah, you do and he made him meditate and things became clearer.
[00:02:15] Fawn: Yeah. And things can slow down, do slow down when you meditate. So, okay. Meditation is definitely in there. But listen to this. So I don't remember how I came across this, but there are all these different ways of rest, other types of rest that our bodies need.
[00:02:34] Fawn: So the first one is physical rest: which is either passive or active. Passive rest includes sleeping and napping. And then active rest could be like if you go to a a, a yoga class and the stretching or like getting a massage, that would be more active rest, and that's physical rest. Okay.
[00:03:08] Fawn: Then there's Sensory Rest:
[00:03:12] Matt: ooh, that's
[00:03:12] Matt: a big one.
[00:03:13] Fawn: Do you know what that is?
[00:03:14] Matt: Well, we get bombarded by all sorts of things all the time. Yes. Driving down the road. Or even just on our computers. Or our phones. Absolutely.
[00:03:24] Fawn: And that's why I don't like our podcast being video at the same time, because I think there's something very special about just hearing a human voice and nothing else.
[00:03:33] Fawn: not concentrating on what we look like, not looking at our backgrounds and what we're wearing. God knows like all the other things that you're thinking about, but if we're just hearing each other's voices, I think that's very calming and it just, it, it's more balancing, you know what I'm saying?
[00:03:53] Fawn: That's why I like podcasts to just be sound. But anyway, so a sensory rest, you're absolutely. You can get sensory rest by closing your eyes, unplugging from devices, going somewhere quiet. That's sensory rest.
[00:04:15] Fawn: Then we have third one is mental rest, which is taking short breaks throughout your day. Just taking a short break.
[00:04:30] Fawn: Then we have creative rest, and that's when you can get out. At nature, it's about surrounding yourself with images of beauty and art. Whatever makes you feel right, that is creative rest.
[00:04:52] Fawn: There's also emotional rest which means having the time and space to freely express your feelings and cut back on people pleasing
[00:05:02] Fawn: Any comments? Hmm, . Why? Why are you doing the pouty lip? When I said that,
[00:05:11] Matt: I'm
[00:05:12] Matt: pondering that's all.
[00:05:13] Fawn: What are you thinking about?
[00:05:14] Matt: Just different types of rest and Yeah. Mm. Things I've discovered
[00:05:19] Matt: and,
[00:05:19] Fawn: but when I got to emotional rest you started pouting. You made a face.
[00:05:24] Fawn: There you go. .
[00:05:25] Fawn: There's a face
[00:05:26] Matt: again.
[00:05:26] Fawn: What's happening Matt?
[00:05:27] Matt: Nothing?
[00:05:28] Fawn: Nothing. Are you,
[00:05:30] Matt: am I a people pleaser? .
[00:05:31] Fawn: No, but I think your emotions, I think you will shut them down because you don't have time to properly feel something. So you store it away.
[00:05:39] Matt: Well, I'm a boy
[00:05:40] Fawn: and then other things hap That's terrible. .
[00:05:43] Matt: I know.
[00:05:43] Fawn: And then other things happen.
[00:05:44] Fawn: You never have time to release what happened because you didn't have time to process it, and that will make you sick. So let's, okay, when we're done, I want you to go and get some emotional rest. Because you, you power,
[00:06:00] Matt: but I got stuff to do.
[00:06:01] Fawn: (Fawn sighs with frustration) Moving on. We have
[00:06:05] Fawn: social rest: what is that?
[00:06:08] Matt: Taking a break from people?
[00:06:10] Fawn: It's surrounding yourself with positive and supportive people,
[00:06:17] Fawn: And then the last one that I have is
[00:06:20] Fawn: spiritual rest. What's that??
[00:06:23] Matt: Meditating on a
[00:06:24] Matt: ashram,
[00:06:25] Fawn: it's the ability to connect beyond the physical and mental and feel a deep sense of belonging, love, acceptance, and purpose. So those are the types of rest that you need. Anything you wanna add? or anything you wanna express?
[00:06:48] Fawn: Matt, you look troubled. ? Now I'm troubled. What's
[00:06:52] Fawn: happening?
[00:06:52] Matt: No, I'm just thinking about like sometimes like one of the ways I'll rest is I'll shift from activity to activity that are radically different and that I defined to myself is probably terrible to do as rest. So I'm just ping ponging from between activities, but they're not, um, you know, they're, they're maybe strenuous in different ways or they touch on different parts of me, you know, mental, spiritual, um, logical, emotional, physical.
[00:07:25] Matt: You know, Hey, I'll take a break from writing code and go spin on the bike,
[00:07:29] Fawn: After all these years together. I just noticed that about you. It was because of that storm we had last week. You can't sit still . You cannot just be, I just needed, you always need a device or a game or something to, um, make your brain work hard,
[00:07:49] Matt: not hard.
[00:07:50] Fawn: Well, for me it's hard , but my God, like I can look at a wall. And be like, look at that.
[00:07:58] Matt: Not me.
[00:07:59] Fawn: Look, I can just sit there for a long time.
[00:08:01] Matt: Nope.
[00:08:02] Fawn: What is going on, Matt?
[00:08:04] Fawn: Have you always been like that?
[00:08:06] Matt: Almost.
[00:08:07] Fawn: Wow.
[00:08:09] Fawn: Why?
[00:08:10] Matt: Just am.
[00:08:12] Fawn: What do you think will happen if you do nothing and you just sit quietly?
[00:08:15] Matt: See, here's the problem. It's almost. Summer camp, we'd go for a hike. Right. Or even, you know, day camp or whatever you want to call it. We go for a hike. Right. And usually about half or a third of the way or two thirds of the way done, you'll take a break.
[00:08:30] Matt: Right. Okay. And everybody just kind of sits on the side of the trail, hydrates a little bit, maybe eats a little nosh and then you set off again. Right. I am never rested. I'm just as tired as when I started taking the break.
[00:08:43] Fawn: Mm-hmm. .
[00:08:44] Matt: So it's like the rest does mean no good. As a matter of fact, it almost hurts me because then it just takes longer to finish the silly hike.
[00:08:51] Fawn: You know, I understand what you're saying. When I worked in offices, I hated taking breaks because once I stopped that mad routine of like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go and do, do, do, do, do like quickly and ferociously and with expertise and like all this energy. and then you take a 10 minute break or even a 30 minute break.
[00:09:13] Fawn: By the way, in America, you get, you're lucky if you get a 30 minute break to go buy lunch or get your lunch, eat it, and then be back in the office all within 30 minutes. Guys, that's not okay. But anyway, that's another show. So, but I remember, I'm like, ugh, I, I don't want to take a break because once I take a break, it's so hard to wind up again to that level right of extreme.
[00:09:40] Fawn: Doing Right. So it's more painful. So I'd rather just keep going through the pain and not know what I'm missing, which is I could be relaxing . You know what I'm saying?
[00:09:51] Matt: Absolutely. No, I, I work so much better. I'm sharpest first thing in the morning, and after lunch I'm dullest. And it's just how, it's how I've always been.
[00:10:02] Matt: And I hear about people who aren't that way and I'm like, Well, good for you being like terrible first thing in the morning, but better after, after lunch. I am at my worst at the end of the day.
[00:10:13] Fawn: Yeah. Yeah. With so many things like, people who do voiceovers, I was just told don't do it. When at the end of the day, like, don't record.
[00:10:23] Fawn: At the end of a long day, you're tired, you're not as good, So we need rest, you guys.
[00:10:31] Matt: All sorts of rest.
[00:10:32] Fawn: Yeah. Everything also needs rest. Yes. Sometimes you can't figure something out that you need to work on, like a problem; you can't find a solution, let it rest. The answer will find you
[00:10:46] Matt: definitely true.
[00:10:47] Fawn: But you need to physically rest your body and your mind and your spirit . Because something else will find you ,will knock you on the head. Don't let that happen. Just, yeah, please get some rest. Love you. That's all I have to say today. Quick. Get some rest, guys. Come on.
[00:11:08] Matt: Fair enough.
[00:11:09] Fawn: Let's have a little nap. Or let's go outside and play.
[00:11:14] Fawn: Or let's go outside and just be and listen to the birds.
[00:11:18] Fawn: Curl up with a blanket and have a good cry and stare at the wall. Well, in my case, sometimes I stare at the wall , but like, have a good cry. Watch a movie, get some ice cream. Whatever makes you feel good, go and do it right now. That's, that's an order,
[00:11:38] Fawn: Love you guys. Talk to you later. Thanks for listening.
[00:11:42] Matt: Be well
[00:11:43] Fawn: talk to you soon. Bye.
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