"Fright Bonds: Exploring the Fascination with Horror Movies and Human Connections"

December 11, 2023 00:27:48
"Fright Bonds: Exploring the Fascination with Horror Movies and Human Connections"
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"Fright Bonds: Exploring the Fascination with Horror Movies and Human Connections"

Dec 11 2023 | 00:27:48

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Fawn Anderson

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In this podcast episode, Fawn, Matt, and their kids discuss the allure of horror movies. Fawn expresses her lack of interest in horror due to the world's existing stress and prefers romantic comedies. The conversation delves into why people, especially the younger generation, find enjoyment in horror. They debate if horror serves as a distraction or a reflection of inner emotions, discussing the psychology behind the attraction to frightening films. The hosts explore how horror movies create shared experiences, fostering camaraderie and stimulating discussions about decision-making within these films. They draw parallels between classic literature and fairy tales, often cautionary in nature, and analyze the societal impact of these narratives. Ultimately, they contemplate whether horror movies, despite their unsettling nature, foster connections and discussions among viewers, similar to other shared experiences in life.

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Why Horror Movies? [00:00:00] Fawn: Hello, everybody. Welcome back. [00:00:02] MATT: We have a special guest today. Two special guests today. Very special. Our [00:00:06] Fawn: kids are here. [00:00:07] Fawn: Hi. [00:00:08] Fawn: Hi. What's up, world? Oh, dear. People. The horror. The horror, you guys. Oh, horror. Indeed. Oh, my gosh. What's going on? Why? Why is that funny to you guys? Okay, everybody. It's not funny to [00:00:21] E: me, but I have a lot of friends who love horror movies. [00:00:24] E: Like my best friend, my other friends, everyone loves them. [00:00:27] Fawn: Okay, so here's the thing. I am, um, I'm not, I'm not into it. I never have. There is so much in the world. I don't need further stress or fear. Thank you very much. I just want myself a good romantic comedy. But what do you think is happening? Because I mean, your generation especially is experiencing so much, and we kind of say this about every generation, but seriously, you guys have had it rough. [00:01:04] Fawn: You've been through a pandemic. It feels like world war. I mean, everybody's fighting. there's just so many things happening. And I think you guys have it really, really tough. We all do. I just don't understand why you think it's funny to watch horror movies. [00:01:24] Fawn: Well, I don't really find it funny to watch them, but sometimes it can be a good distraction, like replacing all that other stress in your life with Something completely different. [00:01:34] Fawn: Like, oh no, there's zombies, there's blood, there's a horrible pun on the queen. I don't know, sometimes horror movies with a little bit of humor can be pretty fun, but they're kind of hard to come by. But why not just watch something fun or happy to get your mind off of things? Well, [00:01:53] E: in my opinion, it's because you don't feel fun, you don't feel happy. [00:01:55] E: You want to see something morbid and gross because, I don't know, it's how you feel on the inside, maybe? [00:02:03] Fawn: Is it kind of, I have no idea. Is it like looking, is it kind of like listening to music that is not happy when you're not happy? Nope. [00:02:12] E: I personally think it's like that, literally not [00:02:15] Fawn: at all. Why? I like listening to sad music. [00:02:18] Fawn: Either that iris some weird alternative rock. No, but that's what I'm saying. When you're not happy, you tend to listen to things that are not happy. [00:02:27] E: It's because you relate to them more in the moment. [00:02:29] Fawn: That's why. Right. So, Matt. Yes. This was your idea. Hello. Yes, it was. Please explain what is happening. [00:02:39] Fawn: You've been doing some research. [00:02:40] MATT: Well, first let's talk about what exactly is a horror movie. And I think the best definition of a horror movie is a movie in which a monster threatens and a monster could be a human but typically they give them superhuman abilities or it's literally something so foreign like alien or Godzilla [00:03:03] Fawn: what about those movies with oh my gosh what's what's her name the famous actress She broke the knees of the guy. [00:03:12] MATT: Oh, Kathy Bates. Misery. Like, [00:03:15] Fawn: that's horror too, right? I've never seen it, but I've seen enough clips. But, like, why are people into that? Or, I mean, I can understand some horror movies. Like, it teaches you a lesson. What was that movie? [00:03:29] E: Yeah, like, don't pick up the phone if it's an unknown caller, [00:03:32] Fawn: for example. [00:03:32] Fawn: Yeah, like, don't run. Like, they make stupid mistakes, right? [00:03:37] E: Yeah, always stay in a group and don't separate because that's how you die in a horror movie. [00:03:42] Fawn: But, what I was gonna I forgot what I was gonna say. You learn a lesson Oh, oh, no. Okay, thanks, because I forgot the name of the movie. Basic Instincts. Is that considered [00:03:52] MATT: horror? [00:03:53] MATT: I've never seen that, but I don't think so. [00:03:55] Fawn: I've never seen it either. Okay, so, for me it's horror because the guy Um, it's a, it's a couple and the guy cheats on his wife, right? And I think they have kids, too. But that's [00:04:07] MATT: drama. That's not horror. [00:04:08] Fawn: Yeah, but it's horror. That sounds more like a drama to me. [00:04:11] MATT: Are you going with W H O R E or? [00:04:14] MATT: No! [00:04:18] MATT: Well, I'm just confused. I need clarification. [00:04:21] Fawn: I'm just saying that movie scared a lot of men into not cheating. It did, [00:04:26] MATT: for sure. But, uh, [00:04:27] Fawn: But still not considered [00:04:28] MATT: horror? Again, the monster, and if it's a human monster, it has to have certain superhuman attributes. So, was she super humanly smart, or? [00:04:40] Fawn: No, she was just relentless, and like, it was scary. [00:04:44] Fawn: Anyway, you guys, I don't know. This is out of my league. I've never really watched horror movies. The first movie I ever saw in my life was Bambi, and I'm forever traumatized. And that was a [00:04:53] MATT: horror movie as far as you're concerned, because it's pretty dire. My [00:04:56] E: best friend loves that movie. What, [00:04:59] Fawn: Bambi? Yeah, she [00:05:00] E: loves that movie. [00:05:02] E: I don't know. She likes Disney movies, which I've never understood. When first thing that comes to mind to Disney, one of my famous quotes that I once said was, It's a Disney movie, someone has to die. [00:05:13] Fawn: She said that about Ponyo. Turns out the mom didn't die. The mom didn't [00:05:18] E: die? I really love that movie. I still need to figure out what to do with that Ponyo notebook I [00:05:22] Fawn: got in New York. [00:05:23] Fawn: We love Studio Ghibli. We love Studio Ghibli. There's [00:05:26] MATT: a new one too, but that's beside the point. But let's, let's circle back now into the why and one of the things you guys brought up, which was basically They call it the rush. They call it the fight or flight response. You get that feedback when you want, when you, some people, most people get that feedback when they watch a horror movie, there's this mixture of dread and exultation at the same time. [00:05:50] MATT: It's almost like a sensory, it can be a sensory overload. That's addictive, sort of, kind of, but they have noted elevated, adrenaline. In people who are watching horror movies, which is interesting, this fight or flight response is similar to, the fight or flight response you might get, talking to somebody you liked, but you get that in a safe space when you watch a horror movie because you know that nothing is going to happen to you personally, so it's almost like a safe space to get that excitement [00:06:25] Fawn: I think it's practicing, like, so you know what to do, so when you experience that kind of fright, when you experience that horror that's not really related to you, is it training your body to respond to your own life when you go through horror? [00:06:41] Fawn: I mean, [00:06:42] E: maybe. I guess I can see that, but I'm not sure. [00:06:46] MATT: I don't know. Well, as it turns out, there's a, they call it low [00:06:53] MATT: neuroticism, oh my god, I just butchered that word. And it's basically, there are people out there who don't have a typical emotional response to things. And it's almost like they would watch a horror movie to feel these feelings very sharply so that they can feel them less sharply later too. So it dulls the senses. [00:07:14] MATT: Like, almost like training. Yeah, it's like becoming desensitized. No, like these are people who naturally have, are desensitized to everything. Wow. This helps them understand [00:07:25] Fawn: it. See, I think that is so wrong. Because if you're already desensitized to life, so what? You're gonna see some Horrific things, and that becomes your norm? [00:07:40] Fawn: That's not okay, you guys. I think this is messing up the whole world. There's [00:07:44] MATT: a lot of emotional numbness out there. And people can see this as, some people do see this as release. [00:07:51] Fawn: Do you guys see it as a release? [00:07:53] E: I can see Okay, you go. No, I'm not a psychopath. [00:07:58] MATT: Oof, ouch. [00:08:00] E: Ouch, Alex. It [00:08:01] Fawn: is fun to play with new concepts with things. [00:08:04] Fawn: Like, sometimes I'll see something, like, that sounds kind of horrific for, like, a fictional character to go through, and I'm like, hey, why doesn't my fictional character go through that? And it adds to the plot, and makes me play with, like, new, like, personalities and different, like, endings and stuff. So, it's helping you with your writing. [00:08:23] Fawn: Feeling creativity sometimes? It [00:08:26] MATT: definitely can. Another thing people have noticed is that often times if you take a look at a true quote unquote classic of the horror genre would be Frankenstein. It's like 200 years old. And it's a symbolic representation of people's real fears. Which is biology getting out of hand. [00:08:44] MATT: Like, experimentation. I want to say I saw 200 years old. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein? [00:08:51] Fawn: Oh, you mean the book? [00:08:51] MATT: The, the, the original work is, yeah, exactly what I'm talking about. [00:08:55] Fawn: Oh, I thought you were talking about, like, the motion picture. [00:08:57] E: Fun fact, Mary Shelley was inspired to write Frankenstein due to the gloomy weather of [00:09:02] Fawn: her time. [00:09:03] Fawn: Hold on a second, I just remembered something. It's true. When you were like, how old were you, 10? 11? You started reading Stephen King. Yes, she says with a big smile, proud smile. So, yeah, I debated. I'm like, what? Pet Sematary is my favorite book. Oh my gosh. I don't, I mean, I remember going back and forth in my head because you wanted the Stephen King books. [00:09:29] Fawn: And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. But I thought, okay, you know. Because [00:09:35] E: at least I'm reading. Right. [00:09:38] Fawn: I mean, you were reading anyway, but those were like your first big thick books, right? Yeah, I guess so. Remember when we were like, four, and you were like, Come on, all these other four year olds are reading whole books, no pictures, just pure, long, thick chapters, you have to as well. [00:09:54] Fawn: Starting now, here's Odysseus. [00:09:59] MATT: Or the [00:09:59] E: Odyssey. It's called the Odyssey, not the Odysseus. Did I say the Odysseus? You did. Oh yes, you did. Shoot! [00:10:07] MATT: But Odysseus also translates. It's into Ulysses in some cultures. [00:10:12] Fawn: That was fun reading that together. The Odyssey? No? Oh well. Alright. I fail. I personally thought it was fun. It was good. That, that had drama. [00:10:28] Fawn: Posture. Okay. [00:10:29] MATT: Kaboom. Anyways, another thing that they have noticed, and by they I mean psychologists actually, believe it or not. Psychiatrists, psychologists, whatever. [00:10:40] Fawn: Psychiatrist gives you drugs. Psychology is like, just [00:10:43] MATT: talking. So we go, we go psychology. But they've noticed that people who are into, horror. [00:10:49] MATT: typically have. And you're gonna love this one, babe. More curiosity. [00:10:54] E: Oh yeah, I think that's true. I mean, my friends are all very curious people and they love horror [00:10:59] MATT: movies. The way you said love is quite daunting. [00:11:02] E: Okay, they're not creeps. They're nice people. [00:11:06] MATT: Well, and that's just it. Other people have to wonder. [00:11:09] MATT: Other psychologists have wondered, you know, are people really savages? And there's a thin veneer society on top of that. And we need to let our little beast out. And a horror movie is a way to do that. Because, of course, the emotional release. [00:11:25] Fawn: Alright, here's a question for everybody. Are you ready? [00:11:28] Fawn: Bringing it back to friendship. Do you think that our society as a whole, not you guys, but our society as a whole is so fragmented, separated, not a lot of people have friends that they constantly hang out with and also, they don't really have friends within their zip code. [00:11:47] Fawn: Everyone's long distance or something. Instead of bonding together and, like, being together to talk about life and everything, I think so many things are taboo to talk about now. And there's so much going on that every, like, every single person has so many different issues happening with them that it's hard to communicate how you're feeling. [00:12:08] Fawn: And also, your feelings change every day. My feelings change, like, a few times a day, right? Up and down, all over the place, sideways. Yep. And so, I think that's just normal, especially for sensitive people like us. People that care about other people around the world. When we're seeing all the news, everything that's happening. [00:12:30] Fawn: My question is, do you think we turn . Do you think people Stop it, you guys. They're like, hitting each other. Stop it. We're not hitting each other. We're not vibing your whole career. Stop it. Stop it. Now I'm forgetting what I was saying. Thanks guys. Um, what I'm saying is do you think because we don't have people to be arm in arm with that we turn to these movies to have a bonding experience together, like a shared experience? [00:13:00] Fawn: Because we can all see the same movie. I mean, same kind of thing happens with like, fandoms and stuff, like the Deltarune fandom, Amore, stuff like that. Are those horror? No, those definitely aren't. Amore is psychological horror. Ugh, [00:13:15] MATT: hectic. I do not like you playing that game. I do. Anyways, I do think shared experiences are important, and I think that as we become less able to communicate, As a society and that is a direction we are headed just because I don't want to offend you and or we're losing the written word, slowly but surely, but, uh, sharing an experience without political ramifications. [00:13:40] MATT: So if you meet somebody who's also a Taylor Swift fan, you're not necessarily going to ask them about their political beliefs and you can just, you can have a relationship based on being a fan of something. And then. But then also, I think a horror movie is a shared experience. Now, as it turns out, when you share that kind of false danger and excitement, as a group, the group gets a dump not only of adrenaline, but also of something called oxytocin. [00:14:14] MATT: Oxytocin? Oxytocin. Yep. Oxytocin. And they become, and they have a closeness and affinity with one another. It's almost like you survived something together. [00:14:24] Fawn: Well, do you think it's because, so this was my question, do you think because, let's just say when we as a society go through one thing, we all have different perspectives based on our income, based on where we live, based on our political beliefs, based on our backgrounds, right? [00:14:42] Fawn: Right? Cultural backgrounds. That even though we're facing the same dilemmas, we all have different perspectives. But if everyone was watching the same horror movie, it's really from one perspective. So it's the only time that we all have the same fright perspective. You know what [00:15:01] MATT: I'm saying? Absolutely. [00:15:02] MATT: Yeah. And I think it's, I think it's channeling into kind of our more base mind. A simpler state. In our heads, wherein we're a tribe and we have to protect ourselves from saber tooths or whatever it is. So [00:15:19] Fawn: in a way, we're working together. Yes. So in a way, these terrible movies They're terrible. You guys, I think they're terrible. [00:15:27] Fawn: I'm sorry. I know you like them. But in a way, is it bringing people together for like a, you know, like a common feeling? Yeah, it is, [00:15:37] E: cause, even though we're so, like, very divided nowadays, as you guys said, we do still want to bond with each other and have things in common with one another. And sometimes, mo horror movies, or just movies in general, can help with that, because as dad said, you're in you're sharing an experience together, and are sharing [00:15:56] Fawn: feelings together. [00:15:58] Fawn: I think everyone should just get some therapy and call it a day. Well, honestly It's not meant to be funny. No, I totally agree with you, babe. Yeah, so [00:16:06] MATT: do I. Honestly, though, back to horror in particular is they're trying to trigger these kind of base fight or flight responses in you, which helps you bond more so than in a romantic comedy where everything's hearts and flowers and there's not a lot of, uh, tension, per se. [00:16:27] Fawn: Also, romantic comedies are often heteronormative and cringy. Not all of them. Not all of them. There are some good So many are. There are some good Hallmark movies, though. Oh no. Uncle Sam! Stop it. Let's not [00:16:42] E: Well, not Hallmark, but just romantic comedy [00:16:44] MATT: in general. Let's not go off into that kind of, uh [00:16:48] E: They're [00:16:48] MATT: fun to make fun of. [00:16:50] MATT: Yeah, I know, but we're supposed to be focusing on It's okay. More the horror, more the visceral horror style [00:16:56] Fawn: movies. But, I mean, it is the opposite of horror. Romantic comedy. Or, what if there was a horror [00:17:03] E: What if there was a horror movie and a romantic comedy that were mixed together? I'm [00:17:07] MATT: sure there has been. [00:17:08] Fawn: Has there? I'm sure. I don't know. Like I said, I don't watch them guys. Oh, Hugh! I love you! Thank you for saving me from the zombies! Oh, [00:17:18] MATT: as a matter of fact, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let the Right One In, I would classify as romance yet horror all at the same time. It's called Let the Right One In. It's really creepy. [00:17:34] Fawn: It's super creepy. [00:17:40] Fawn: No. Not really. You [00:17:41] MATT: don't let us. They just have an overwhelming desire to. [00:17:44] Fawn: Shana the dead. You've seen that? [00:17:46] E: Shana the dead. That doesn't [00:17:48] Fawn: count. It does! There's so much blood and gore. There's enough going on in there. Please try not to scream into the mic. I know, that's not what I'm doing. [00:17:58] Fawn: Our ears. Our ears. Our ears. Stop it guys. Hello, focus. Focus. Hello. You guys are like toddlers. What is ha you're teenagers now. I'm the one who's [00:18:11] E: focusing. Alex is veering off. We're [00:18:14] Fawn: sad and we use this as a coping mechanism. [00:18:16] E: That's not true. [00:18:18] Fawn: Alright everybody. Alright, how do we bring this around? This is all over the place. [00:18:23] Fawn: Is it? Is it? [00:18:25] MATT: I've tried to keep us in tightly and narrowly focused. Alright, [00:18:27] Fawn: keep going. I've been [00:18:28] MATT: trying to stay in line. I've gone through literally all of my notes. So, what's the [00:18:33] Fawn: point? What [00:18:35] MATT: is the point? Well, the attraction of horror is the same as, uh, It holds dear to something I've been kind of holding on to, not kind of, definitely holding on to as far as how we form friendships. [00:18:47] MATT: We form friendship through shared experiences. A horror movie, like it or not, gives us the same emotional response as we get from having shared experiences with people. Joy, uh, fear, excitement. So what do you And when it's all said and done, a sense of fun and camaraderie. Ugh. I know. [00:19:09] Fawn: So, what are you saying, Matt? [00:19:11] Fawn: Are you, are you trying to promote these horrible [00:19:16] MATT: movies? I'm trying to say that We need to figure out how to get more of these types of experiences in our lives without necessarily going into the horror kind of vein. Because another thing that they've noticed is, our desire to watch these types of movies tends to wane as we get older. [00:19:36] Fawn: Really? Yeah. Yeah, you guys get very excited. I think your favorite holiday is Halloween. [00:19:43] E: One of my favorites, yes, although it is nice that Christmas Eve is like two weeks right, like, literally just two weeks before mine. Birthday. Sorry. [00:19:54] Fawn: I really like Halloween because I get to be someone who's not me and not have to worry about [00:19:59] MATT: it. [00:20:00] MATT: And there you go, that's a big part of Halloween for sure. [00:20:03] E: I'm [00:20:04] Fawn: gonna be Pomney from the Amazing Digital Circus next year. I do not get [00:20:07] E: why [00:20:07] Fawn: you like that show. It's so good. It's kind of, like, plays on, like, the psychological horror aspect that kind of Omori does, except not at all. Basically, a bunch of characters get trapped into, like, another world and stuff, and, well, there's no exit, and they're all going insane slowly, and when they go insane, they abstract, and get all weird, and they're stuck in a chamber. [00:20:28] Fawn: Yay. So, all these stories are helping you, or hurting you? I mean, the characters are nice. Is it? Yeah, but you're dodging [00:20:38] E: the question. Is it helping you or is it hurting you? Well, I, [00:20:40] MATT: I think it expands our brains. And honestly, if we take a look at To what end? A lot of classical literature, like if you flip to the end of the Bible, that's a scary book. [00:20:52] MATT: I am not kidding. [00:20:54] Fawn: And Well, I don't think, [00:20:54] E: I'm not saying you're [00:20:56] MATT: joking either. Other, other quote unquote classics in the genre. You take a look at, uh, H. P. Lovecraft. You take a look at Edgar Allen Poe. You take a look at I love both authors. You've read H. P. Lovecraft? Oh [00:21:08] Fawn: dear. Edgar Allan Poe keeps coming up in my life and I don't know why. [00:21:12] E: It's because he's one of my favorite poets, that's why. You know, [00:21:15] MATT: even The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Devil and Daniel Webster. These are old stories. [00:21:22] Fawn: You know, I kept you guys away from all of that. Like, all the stories, all the fairy tales. I never told you guys any of the fairy tales when you were little. [00:21:33] Fawn: Like, they're all horrific. They are. And it's what? And it's to teach people not to do something. [00:21:39] MATT: Like, don't go wandering in the woods and go into the witch's house. Don't go in there. Otherwise she'll put you in her oven. It's not good. Or [00:21:45] E: don't go walking in the woods alone just to get to your grandmother because the wolf will get [00:21:50] Fawn: you. [00:21:51] Fawn: Well, like, the wolf represented, what, the Great Depression? No, the story? No, it did. No, the Little Red Riding Hood, the wolf represents. That's the Great Depression, like all the stuff that was happening. Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? [00:22:08] E: That story's been around long before the Great Depression though. [00:22:11] E: Things get repurposed for sure. Yeah, that's true. For me it's always been a warring, like a cautionary tale against pedophiles for when I, I don't know, just in my opinion. [00:22:21] MATT: And that's just it. Again, often times what? A horror movie will bring us, is we'll start discussing it, even after the fact, like, what would you have done instead of, you know, going into the basement by yourself to investigate why the lights are off? [00:22:37] E: Simple. Don't play with an [00:22:39] MATT: Ouija board. But that's just it. You can talk about the stupid moves that were done and how you would do things differently as you're communicating with people you saw the movie with, or people who have even just only seen the movie. You don't necessarily have to have been in the same place same time, but you can still connect By discussing the flaws or the brilliance, you know, certainly silence of the lambs That was like that was like everybody was talking about that for a minute. [00:23:05] MATT: It [00:23:05] E: sounds like it [00:23:05] Fawn: has some gore in it It does I haven't seen it, but there are lines that Our friends will Marker [00:23:11] Fawn: repeat and we all laugh in a very uneasy kind of way, like uneasy laughter. [00:23:19] MATT: Right. And, and honestly, one of the most probably disturbing things that I've heard about the movie was that when it was shown in theaters. [00:23:26] MATT: So, your, your antagonist really is, uh, this guy Buffalo Bill, but let's ignore that for the moment. There was a secondary, not nice character named Hannibal Lecter, and he escapes at the end. And audiences cheered for that. Just [00:23:44] Fawn: disturbing. You guys, I prefer to, like, too bad we don't have cable anymore, but like, like I said. [00:23:50] Fawn: I miss my Met Gala's. Golden Girls. Oh, I miss Golden Girls. No, but I miss the Days of Our Lives. Days of Our Lives. In a way, it was a little bit That's, for me, horror. It taught some good lessons. That [00:24:04] MATT: would be more of a thrill, thriller, maybe. [00:24:09] Fawn: Tell a novella. But, like, I had you guys watch it. Cause I'm like, look, it all comes down to don't lie. [00:24:18] Fawn: Don't lie. [00:24:21] E: Don't cheat. And the more you keep the lie going, the worse it's gonna be in the [00:24:24] Fawn: end. The more you keep the lie going, I thought you said light. And don't kill people. But again, [00:24:32] MATT: not, not really in the horror [00:24:33] Fawn: genre. No, but I'm just saying that that's, that was my way to introduce the kids to things that are not like all happy, you know, that teaches some good lessons. [00:24:46] Fawn: Yep. I mean, days of our lives can go dark, remember? That's what, the devil, the devil came in. Avis, [00:24:53] E: it's the devil. [00:24:55] Fawn: Anyways. For Days of Our Lives fans out there, we don't know what's happening anymore. [00:25:03] E: Please let us know. I never [00:25:04] Fawn: did, thank you. Sorry. We don't know. We don't know what [00:25:08] E: happened. I kind of wanted to know. [00:25:10] E: Apparently, Susan's alive though, so I [00:25:12] Fawn: hope so. I hope Susan's alive. Anyway, guys, thanks for listening. Are we done? I don't know where this is going. Can we just stop with the horror? We don't need it. Shared [00:25:21] MATT: experiences, and honestly, you know, I think once you've had enough kind of, let's just call it mischief in your life, you kind of don't need that fight or flight [00:25:32] Fawn: anymore. [00:25:32] Fawn: I think I'm sorry, but I have enough that goes on in my head. That scares me. And there you go. Reality. I don't need to be scared anymore. Reality is pretty darn scary. Oh, yes it is. With a big smile, she says. Lord have mercy. I smile when I'm nervous. Okay. So, thanks guys for talking with us today. You're welcome. [00:25:57] E: Are you alright, [00:25:58] Fawn: babe? Yeah, no problem. Someone [00:26:01] E: looks [00:26:01] Fawn: tired. Yeah, that would be me. Hey, stop it. All right guys. Thanks for listening. Let us know what you think. Do you like horror movies or are you with me? Let's get [00:26:12] MATT: rid of them. Do you stand do you think that the shared experience? Can prove to be a bonding moment [00:26:18] Fawn: for friendship. [00:26:19] Fawn: I'm, sorry. [00:26:19] E: Do you? And do you like Disney or do you not? [00:26:23] Fawn: or Also, do you like rom coms or are you normal? Alex that's so rude Oh my gosh. [00:26:33] MATT: Okay. Thank you much everyone [00:26:36] Fawn: All right, everybody Thank you. Let us know what you think and we love you Have a beautiful every day. Can we just bond over some cake? Be well. [00:26:49] Fawn: Okay. Yes. Bye

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